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Published 9:39am Thursday, October 18, 2012

Wake up, Lawrence County voters! Even if you’re not particularly fond of either presidential candidate, at least vote the interests of your family and fellow Lawrence Countians.

Most of us depend in some way on the things the Romney/Ryan plan either abolishes or greatly reduces.

If you have benefitted from Social Security, Medicare, college tuition grants, unemployment benefits, minimum wages, veterans benefits, food stamps, and numerous other programs, you are one of the 47 percent that Romney says will never take responsibility for yourself. Even if you have worked all your life and paid huge amounts of your wages in taxes.

Of course they promise to reduce taxes. After all these programs are gutted reducing taxes will be no problem. But the amount you and I pay in taxes will seem like nothing compared to what we will lose if the Ryan plan becomes the law of the land.

Romney’s solution is,”Borrow money from your parents and start your own business.”

In other words, you should have been smart enough to be born into a richer family.

We are slowly, but surely recovering from the disaster of the Bush years. If the Republicans really believed we were better off four years ago they would have invited Bush to speak about it at the Republican National Convention.

Please don’t vote to go back there.

Janet Jenkins, Ironton

  • mickakers

    mikehaney; I enjoyed your comment about AARP.

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  • mickakers

    Mike; I receive no benefits of any type from the Railroad or Union. The Railroads do not have a history of benevolence. The only compensation I receive is Railroad Retirement, which I paid into for forty two years. It does pay a bit more than Social Security because the monthly contribution was higher, I still pay $99.90 a month toward Medicare and also Income Tax on my retirement. We do not have a State Income Tax in Florida, but fees coming out the ears. In St. Johns county we have a six per cent sales tax (not on food) one of the cheapest in the state. The Public Educational system is above average for the state, I don’t know about the country. Most Private and Religious Schools are excellent but expensive. We do have Hurricanes to worry about, I have experienced five in the eighteen years living here, it is not pleasant. While living in Ponte Vedra, we had to evacuate once and were on the road for three days, interstate, bumper to bumper traffic no place to stay, sleep in the car all night in a Wal-Mart parking lot, they were very gracious and let us use their facilities. How did I get started on this? Don’t ask questions, Mike.

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  • mickakers

    keta; Your comment “Your candidate says abortion should be legal in cases of rape or incest.” This stand is far better than allowing abortion across the board. I do disagree with this opinion, but as I have mentioned in previous comments, I believe a vote for the Republican Party is a vote for the lessor of two evils. If the
    Republican platform is a creation of the “tea party”, my compliments to them for doing a better job than their opponents across the aisle. Two wrongs never make a right, regardless of how you look at it. Relativism is a weak philosophy. There are Moral laws to adhere to, there is a right and a wrong. There is also a hierarchy of values.

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  • Noesis

    Keta: Guilty as charged. The Kaiser Foundation says the voucher shortfall for seniors will actually be more than $6800 per year…
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    Actually Keya here’s what the Kaiser study says:

    This study should not, however, be interpreted as an analysis of any particular proposal, including the Romney-Ryan proposal, because such an analysis would require additional, more detailed policy specifications than are currently available, and would also….

    Now you were saying?

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  • keta

    every reputable fact checker disagrees with Keta
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    Guilty as charged. The Kaiser Foundation says the voucher shortfall for seniors will actually be more than $6800 per year. Noises, there’s a very good reason why the AARP endorsed the Affordable Care Act. It’s disgraceful to replace Medicare with something that will drain the savings of seniors, a steady drip that is the logical result of destroying the safety net. This election matters.

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  • keta

    Do two wrongs make a right?
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    Interesting. Your candidate says abortion should be legal in cases of rape or incest. Golly, do two wrongs make a right? Of course, what he says is completely meaningless. The republican platform is a creation of the tea party. Mitt couldn’t care less about social issues. He cares about low taxes for corporations and the wealthy, and deregulation. Everything else will be outsourced, like foreign policy in the Bush years. That always works out great.

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  • mickakers

    keta; Your comment “when rape victims are forced to bear the children of their attackers,” you mean, we should murder the child? The child is innocent. Do two wrongs make a right? A lot to think about.

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    • Noesis

      Yes, that’s what she means. The child shall be punished for the sins of his father.

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  • keta

    LOL…yep, you’ll be fine with one of Romney’s vouchers – as long as you don’t need medical attention. The average senior citizen will come up short about $6000 dollars per year. A vote for Romney means you get to spend your savings on medical care. Why not? In his view, your savings are negligible anyway. No big deal.

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    • Noesis

      That’s funny, every reputable fact checker disagrees with Keta and yet, she just repeats her lie

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    • mikehaney

      keta–LOL, can’t imagine what would happen when you may have a complaint against your insurer. Do you think the goverment would follow thru with a complaint against itself?

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  • mickakers

    mikehaney; As a matter of information, I receive no insurance benefits of any type from my union. I purchase my own supplemental medical insurance, rather expensive by the way. Socialized Medicine would be a definite improvement.

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    • mikehaney

      Mick–if Obama gets re-elected, we’ll need to discuss this in a year or two. We may find ourselves in a deeper hole dollar wise and with others dictating our medical care.

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    • mikehaney

      Mick–so the ralroad nor the union had no plan for retiree’s?

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  • mikehaney

    Keta– Anyone who thinks the Romney and Ryan economic plan doesn’t involve shredding the safety net is seriously math-challenged.
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    As usual, keta doesn’t know what she is talking about. And,Mick,I assume your medicare supplement comes from your union that was “exempted”. Let me give you ,I think, a future perspective.
    Being retired and under medicare, I used to have a company plan. Now, my company is giving me so much dollar support in way of vouchers to go out and find my own medicare supplement. Maybe as good as I had(will know in a year). The company “did” supply a third party to advise on which plan(out of hundreds)is best for me.
    Only the future(thanks to obamacare)will tell.

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  • keta

    “Murdering their young like animals” is an especially dumb thing to say. When doctors face prison for trying to save the life of a pregnant mother, when rape victims are forced to bear the children of their attackers, we’ll see some murdering.

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    • http://www.tytandan.com 79Tiger

      “trying to save the life of a pregnant mother.”

      C’mon Keta. You are smarter than that. I do not think there is even a measurable statistic where a child had to be aborted to save a pregnant mother. That is so rare in these times it is laughable to suggest that it is an issue.

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    • mikehaney

      Again–this fits well,I think.
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      Evil—let’s put it in perspective.
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      After reviewing the biographies of 500+ killers, psychiatrists have produced 22 levels of evil. Here is a sampling from 1 to 22:

      1) Those who have killed in self defense and who do not show psychopathic tendencies.

      5) Traumatized, desperate persons who have killed abusing relatives and others (for example to support a drug habit) but who lack significant psychopathic traits and are genuinely remorseful.

      11) Psychopathic killers of people who are in the way.

      18) Torture-murderers with murder the primary motive.

      22) Psychopathic torture murderers with torture their primary motive.
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      Mothers who choose abortion,disregarding .05 percent to save life of the mother,rape,incest.—-number 11?
      Abortionist who kills for profit,with full knowledge of what they are doing.———-number 18, or worse considering the dollar motive.
      The voter who votes democrat, even though a supposed christian but refuses to vote against the liberal party(many in My church included).———-My guess would be closer to number 22 than number 1.
      The union person, who votes democrat, wearing blinders to all other issues.———————–there again,closer to 22 than number 1.

      Lastly, a person votes against the stronger pro-life party(platform, plus strong pro-life running mate,plus God wasn’t booed) because the repubs supposedly have more millionaires and billionaires.

      A vote for Obama/Socialist is a vote for “All” that he stands for and all that he has done in the last four years. Sliding our country in a socialist direction we’ve never travelled before.
      Now, we must define socialism, which is what we’ll have if Obama is re-elected.
      Feel free to look up socialism.

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  • keta

    Mick, you’re a cautionary tale for single-issue voters. Mitt Romney doesn’t give a flip about social issues. He supported Roe v. Wade, as the governor of a blue state, as vigorously as he opposes it now. The Utah newspaper that endorsed the president today cited Romney’s “servile courtship of the tea party”. Duh. Romney cares about the new capitalism – Stripping and flipping businesses, leveraging debt, extracting huge profits – and dodging taxes. Your party enjoys sneering at my favorite presidential capitalist, Jimmy Carter. He actually produced something and sold it, a source of hilarity to high rollers like Mitt. Today I heard a republican compare Mitt to Dwight Eisenhower. President Eisenhower would have been appalled by Mitt and his pals – Donald Trump, Sheldon Adelson, all the old pirates dumping millions into Romney’s campaign, confident they’ll get it all back, with interest.

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    • Solange Robillard

      Actually, Keta, some of us enjoy it when smart people come to their senses on moral issues. So Romney was pro-choice in the past? That sucks. But he is now in the camp that DOESN’T condone humans murdering their young like animals, so I’m pleased.

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  • mickakers

    keta; I feel there is a hierarchy of values. Topping this list is the right to life and following close behind is freedom of conscience and the sanctity of marriage between a man and woman. I do not think these issues are debatable. There is another issue creeping in, euthanasia (assisted suicide), I think at least one state has already legalized this, how sad and depraved. The vast majority of other issues are debatable. All candidates are flawed, but some flaws (like support for abortion and euthanasia) are objectively worse, and simply indefensible. And, keta; I feel my vote for Romney is a vote for the dignity and safety for the most helpless members of our society, the unborn. There is and will be time to further the advancement of the poor and working class, they will always be with us. If you do not have the right to life, all other rights are immaterial.

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  • keta

    Hmmmm, why in the world would anyone think republicans want to privatize social security? Maybe it’s because of Dubyah’s push for private accounts in 2005. He was quickly shut down by Democrats, but he thought they were a great idea. So did Rick Perry and Michelle Bachmann during the republican primary. Now Romney and Ryan are supporting their version of privatization. Anyone who thinks the Romney and Ryan economic plan doesn’t involve shredding the safety net is seriously math-challenged. Mick, your vote against the dignity and safety of people who have the bad judgement to be poor or working class is…predictable.

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  • http://www.tytandan.com 79Tiger

    Please name for me one Republican president that has ever denied denied “Social Security, Medicare, college tuition grants, unemployment benefits, minimum wages, veterans benefits, food stamps, and numerous other programs,” for those that truly deserve it and have paid for it all their lives? The problem is those that take advantage of American generosity and obtain benefits they do not deserve and have not earned. The Democrat platform is nothing but scare tactics. Why even so-called smart people believe their crap is beyond me. Take care of those that need it and deserve it. Reform it so that it will be there for others of future generations. Otherwise, if you are willing and able to work, be prepared to see your paycheck shrink even more courtesy of legalized theft by your friendly federal government.

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  • mikehaney

    janet jenkins–If you have benefitted from Social Security, Medicare, college tuition grants, unemployment benefits, minimum wages, veterans benefits, food stamps, and numerous other programs, you are one of the 47 percent that Romney says will never take responsibility for yourself. Even if you have worked all your life and paid huge amounts of your wages in taxes.
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    Now just hold on a minute. Most of these have been earned and also paid into. Some of these are vote buying.
    Dumb article.

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  • mickakers

    Cashmere; My compliments on your post. You are a thinking woman as demonstrated by your comment. I am going to take my chances also and vote for Romney. May God Hold You In The Palm Of His Hand.

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  • Cashmere

    We are marching toward something with Obama, I think I’ll vote for Romney. My salary increased pretty well under Bush, but not one dime under Obama, but we all know about the cost of living these days. I’ll take my chances with Romney, even though I’m a woman who should just be concerned with free birth control, I guess.

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  • bigkahuna

    Just think in 4 more years we could have 8 dollar gasoline.

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