Posted by Demi (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why are so many men criminals? As parents, what is going wrong? Are parents not teaching their boys to be responsible men? What a sad commentary on our society.

Posted by michaelOH (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 11:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's a sign of the "Depression" times Demi.
That's how I see it anyway.

Posted by centerstage (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You can't always blame the parents. Most parents try to raise their kids right, but at some point the kids begin making their own decisions and are responsible for those decisions. No matter what kind of an up-bringing you have, at some point you have to step up, stand up and take responsibility. These "men" are just boys who have never grown up. They continue to make poor decisions, and have very self-centered, self-absorbed, everybody-owes-me mentalities. They should all be locked in that big play pen called JAIL for a very, very, very long time.

Posted by john_mushenhouse (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 1:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

michael depression doesn't give an answer to a man who won't support their family. He could go to the courts and explain or try everywhere for some job. You can still get a job if you are willing to do a job many think are beneath them.

They are just lazy, ill-bred and lacking responsibility.

Posted by hustlinhillbilly (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 2:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

They never learn to take responsibility for their own actions. If there is no work where you're living, go somewhere there is a chance of finding some. The military is always hiring.

Posted by Demi (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 2:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

centerstage..I agree with you that the parents are not always at fault, but many are. I teach high school and I seeevery day the kids from dysfunctional homes where the parents are not around or do not care...I am basing my opinion on my experiences. And, yes, these men must take responsibility for their own actions...I agree totally with that!

Posted by michaelOH (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

John, just where are these jobs that you speak of and doing what?
Many would like to know. Please be specific.

Posted by turbo (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 3:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

There are opening jobs at fast food,truck drivers,construction and other places but if you can't pass a drug test they don't want you.

Posted by cg88 (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 3:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

does criminal non support conviction mean child support ?

Posted by RUNutz (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 3:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Drugs, vandalism, criminal non-support of their children, and a 20 year age range (21-41) of these "most wanted" is the face of our "new" society. God was removed from the schools, corporal punishment (i.e., spanking) was removed from our schools, parents who wanted or tried to discipline their children were threatened with reports to the dreaded Children Services, and our rush to be politically correct all coalesced to form the foundation for these men and many others, both men and women, who will lead us into and through the next generation. The result leaves us with adults, teenagers, and adolescents sharing a common lack of respect; for their parents, for anyone in charge, for themselves, for others, for property, for laws, and for society. For a lot of these, it's too late to begin to instill the discipline they need, but for those of the proper age range, the courts should return to ultimatums of either jail or military service where discipline is a daily practice. The "volunteer" receives a paycheck, a place to live, food to eat, learns various skill sets which can be used in the real world following military service, a GI bill to achieve or further their education, an opportunity to see more of the world than just the tri-state area, and lastly discipline and a sense of responsibility to pass on to their progeny. Their time away from the civilian population reduces the overcrowing of our detention systems, probation departments, and crime recividism.

Posted by michaelOH (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 3:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Is that about it turbo?, and where is it?
If it helps any my son had to shovel manure @
the Ohio State Fair last time. He told me he
is desparete. He lives in Grove City, Ohio.

Posted by cg88 (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 3:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

if criminal non support is at top of a most wanted list we have a huge problem in this county!! isnt there another agency to deal with non-support for a child? yes if some1 wants to work they will go get a job there not that hard to find but i agree with u turbo a drug test is almost 1st thing a employer ask for anymore and that does disqualify alot around here it seems.

Posted by buckfan4life2 (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 3:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well said RUNnutz, all the liberals pushed for these laws now they can't understand what went wrong. Another thing I can't understand is why so many of these pill head women are getting off without paying support. I know several men raiseing their kids and not recieving 1 cent from their worthless mothers. and the law does not go after them.

Posted by flo (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 5:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I lived in Columbus for years and as you drive down the
street there are numerous signs advertising jobs, even offering a bonus as much as $500.00 if you stay for six months. They may be fast food places but they pay enough to pay your rent. People think they are to good to work in these places, but if they need work bad enough they can find it. And, if your work there you get your food free or at a great discount.

Posted by GoBucks79 (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 5:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

cg88, maybe since you obviously have NO IDEA what you are talking about you should not make comments. Seriously, you had to ask what criminal of non support even means!! And yes if you ask the people, men and women, who are raising their children without any help, they would say that this is a HUGE problem in our area. Because of such a stupid ( is that politically correct?) comment I assume that you have no children. If you did you would be aware of the expenence in rasing them! Not to mention how important it is for both parents to be involved with their kids! As far as your ignorance on "another agency" to deal with non support of a child. Yeah the division of child support enforcement agency deals with it BUT it is not an easy task for them and sometimes it takes YEARS to get anywhere with a non supportive parent. There is lots of court visists with lots a slaps on the wrists. As soon as these bums are back on the street they go back to their unemployed lives. Many even work multiple jobs for very short periods of time because child support enforcement eventually finds them and starts withholding their checks. Once this starts these deadbeats quit their job because they do not want to pay!
And if you are wondering if I am a victim of non support I am NOT. I am however a Sister to one, a Cousin to one and a Friend of one. I have seen first hand how it affects the child. The child is the one who suffers!!! How do you explain to them that you are working one or two jobs to provide the support that their other parent won't. The child is the one who sees the one parent in their lives less because they have to work extra to provide for them. They also are the ones who have to deal with their parents ending up on the front page of the paper or tv or radio for being a deadbeat.
Before you go making comments that non support is not a good enough reason to be on the "Most Wanted" list you should do a little research on how non support can cause a living hell for the children involved in one way or the other. Further more, many times these parents that refuse to help raise the child that they help create are drug addicted fools. They don't want to give their money to their children because they are busy snorting it up their noses. (And yes, I said many not all.)
Maybe the reason you feel that it isn't important enough for the law to deal with is because you are one of those non supportive parents!!!!!

Posted by michaelOH (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 5:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh really? And just what is your monthly estimate to have enough to raise a child, rent, food, gas, clothing, etc., etc.
seperately please.
And what would be the $ left in the paycheck after taxes.
I worked @ Rally's on W. Broad for a year and there was not enough.

Posted by Demi (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 5:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No. God was not removed from the schools. He is still there. A student can pray anytime. Parents raise the child, not the schools. I am a high school teacher and I have many students of different religions in my classes. Which prayer should we choose?

Why would you want to hit a child with a paddle? As a teacher, it is not my job to raise the child. I do not hit my own child, so why would I hit someone else's child. My child is a wonderful kind child and is parented by myself and my husband, not by the schools. Why are some of you placing blame on schools. I am there to teach, not to raise others children. If the parent chooses to spank, they should. I would not want another person hitting my child. So why do these men on the most wanted list do bad things? I don't know, but I would venture to guess it starts at home...not the schools. Too many people think the schools should raise your child...shame on you.

You can blame liberals like me all you want. The fact is that many parents do not want the job of parenting, so shame on them.

I live here in Columbus and there are plenty of places to work. Perhaps some of these deadbeats should make the effort to find work somewhere else besides southern Ohio.

There does seem to be a double standard with child support. There are moms out there too who do not take care of their kids or pay support to dads who do. Let's not forget that.

Posted by michaelOH (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 5:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

My above post was for flo.

Posted by michaelOH (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 5:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Don't forget utilities and car insurance.
I really want to know. I have been away
for over ten years.

Posted by michaelOH (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 5:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Let me simplify my question. What is the ACTUAL monthly cost of living in todays $ to live in Columbus now.

In other words, how much is needed out of the paycheck
after deductions.

Posted by cg88 (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 5:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GO BUCKS79 you are clueless home invasions , business being robbed and prescription drugs. perhaps you are the 1 running who is in charge in this county if you want to put non child-support payments on a high priority list (NUTS).

Seperate problem seperate issue and a simple 1 to solve!!

Posted by GoBucks79 (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 5:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OOH! From your reaction I think that I struck a nerve! PRICELESS!

Posted by nooneimportant (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 5:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

whats wrong with everyone all i hear is people from the town that i grew up in pointing the finger at someone else. i lived in ironton until i was 21 at which point i joined the military and have since only been back to visit. no matter where i am at i still miss ironton i love that town. i am a cop in the military and have to say even the crime rate on military installations has rose to unpresidented levels its a sad state for the economy, america and the world. as a cop i feel compeled to give some advice the worst part about my job is that i cannot do anything for anyone until the crime has happened, that eats at me i wish i could be everywhere at once but cops are not super heros. the best advice i can give is take the concealed carry classes, carry a firearm but dont break the law by carry a concealed weapon without the card because then you are no better than the criminals at which you are protecting yourself from. something we do on base is arrange town hall meetings and have training to teach people ways they can assist the police. without the proper information we can not do anything to help. you can give a description of a white male in a green truck but cops cannot pull over every green truck with a white male as the operator. so ask the police how you can help, arrange nieghborhood watch, hold town hall meetings, ask for crime analysis or do them yourself, if you see someone peeking through your nieghbors window dont confront the individual stay out of sight and call the police and keep an eye on the individual and relay that information to the dispatcher. well i hope this helps irotnon and i hate the fact that this town has started to head in this direction. god speed and goodluck...

Posted by michaelOH (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 6 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Demi, YOU live there.
What is YOUR estimate?
All I hear from you people is jobs jobs jobs!
Let's talk $.

Posted by michaelOH (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 6:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

nooneimportant, you caught us in a healthy discussion. I love this town too.

Posted by Demi (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 9:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MichaelOH...There is a higher cost of living here in Columbus. There are more job opportunities here. That is why we moved here several years ago. We had to leave Ironton because of the job situation to better ourselves financially and provide a stable life. Just like anywhere there are all levels of incomes to the ghetto poor to the people who live on golf courses in million dollar homes. But if someone really needed a job to support his family, he could always rent an apartment and work here.

Posted by StopSocialism08 (anonymous) on November 24, 2009 at 2:40 a.m.

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Posted by michaelOH (anonymous) on November 24, 2009 at 4:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Demi, I agree. Just what IS the cost of living in Columbus now.
I have been away for over ten years.

Posted by michaelOH (anonymous) on November 24, 2009 at 4:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm trying to figure out a way to help my son.
I doubt if a fast food paycheck is enough and
that is IF you can get 40 hrs./week.

Posted by michaelOH (anonymous) on November 24, 2009 at 5:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

StopSocialism08, they did not have the drug problem then that we have now, AND WE CAN DO WITHOUT THE NAME CALLING PLEASE!!

Posted by angelgirl (anonymous) on November 24, 2009 at 6:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What's the point in name calling? You may think it but you Don't have to say it!

Posted by michaelOH (anonymous) on November 24, 2009 at 6:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good morning angelgirl

Posted by angelgirl (anonymous) on November 24, 2009 at 7:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

GoodMorning MichaelOH

Posted by michaelOH (anonymous) on November 24, 2009 at 8:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm glad we had so many comments yesterday on this article.
It is always a learning experience.
I pride myself on being VERY open minded.
Always have, always will.

Posted by mlb (anonymous) on November 24, 2009 at 8:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I used to live in Columbus. I once got four different job offers in one day with just a HS diploma and none were fast food. All had good benefits, etc. I used to work for a job agency and you couldn't get people to show up for jobs making $15-$16/hr. People are flakes! They won't show up on time. Always have some excuse why they can't work. They would rather sit on their duff and let the rest of us pay. I also think the lack of paying Child Support and the home invasions go hand in hand. Daddy just isn't around!!! And it trickles down generation after generation. And that's not all, too often Mommy isn't around either!!! Leave it to Grandma to raise em! No wonder our youth has NO DISCIPLINE whatsoever. Thanks for trying Granny, but it's just not the same. MAKE EM RAISE THEIR OWN KIDS!

Posted by angelgirl (anonymous) on November 24, 2009 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I Agree with you mlb..I am proud of myself I am raising my children. Not grandma! I had my first when I was 18 and now at 28 I have 3.Grandma done raised her kids and now its my turn. So I agree with you 100%

Posted by michaelOH (anonymous) on November 24, 2009 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I wish that I knew what it was like to have a Grandma. Both of mine had passed away before I was born including one of my Granddad's. Luckily both of my parents stayed toogether until I was a man.

Posted by michaelOH (anonymous) on November 24, 2009 at 9:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Guess I'm done commenting on this article. It was fun.

Posted by Dacryocystorhinostomy (anonymous) on November 24, 2009 at 9:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Let's keep the punx LOCKED UP! Our cops hafta be discouraged by having to bust the same perps every month. And don't gimme that stuff about the jails being overcrowded. They aint full until all the inmates hafta sleep standing up.

Posted by john_mushenhouse (anonymous) on November 24, 2009 at 5:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey working at a fast food place is a start till you can get a higher paying job. Why use it as a excuse not to work. That is the crybaby, lazy mentality. Work 2 or 3 jobs if you have too. There is no excuse for that. People just accept and applaud and agree with the other degenerates who act and think like they do.

They are sluggards and their excuses are lies.

Posted by flo (anonymous) on November 24, 2009 at 11:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

michaelOh There are numerous job opportunities on the Internet . Example- Columbus jobs. There are hundreds of apartments. They are always hunting maintenance men and the pay is very good and often offer a free apartment;
If you are married you spouse can apply as a leasing agent. They may offer a rent discount if you live on the property. There is numerous male leasing agents, also.
There is construction jobs that will even train. Example- Fluor Daniel. Car part stores are always hiring. Example- Pep Boys.
A job at fast food may not pay all your bills but it is a start.
Your spouse can work at the same place if she is not working. If you do not have a spouse, get a roommate. A lot of people are in the same place as you and will also benefit.
The main thing is you can not stay home and wait for a job. You have to want a job bad enough to look for one. They are out there. Good Luck