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Don’t vote against your own self interests

Published 12:00am Sunday, November 4, 2012

As the 2012 election is upon us it is necessary to remind the people of Lawrence County not to vote against your own self interest and to cast your ballot for President Barack Obama.

Please hear me out.

Now, I could go into detail about the accomplishments of our President: Keeping student loan rates low, getting unemployment under 8 percent, saving the auto industry, passing the Affordable Care Act and making the decision to kill Osama Bin Laden.

I’m not going to do that.

Instead, I will concentrate my efforts on how this election will affect our area.

First, in regards to government aid, it’s essential that Lawrence County continue to receive the opportunity to participate in government programs that allows us to reinvest in our local economy.

A recent article published in the New York Times showed the amount of government aid given by geographical region.

Lawrence County was on the list with a third of our county on government assistance of some kind (33.31 percent to be exact).

It’s not just the underprivileged who get these benefits. Many middle class people take advantage of several federal programs that include the earned income tax credit, mortgage tax deduction and student loan interest deduction.

If you are one of these people, and many of us are, these deductions may be cut depending on who you cast your vote for this November.

Second, in regards to education, there are two reasons why education is perhaps the single most important issue in this election for Lawrence County. Education is the one thing that can help Lawrence County improve its economic situation. By educating a large, capable workforce, we increase the chance of businesses moving here to take advantage of it.

Also, the education system in our county employs a lot of people. Any cuts to education would be devastating. President Obama is the only candidate who wants to invest in public education, hire more teachers, reduce class sizes, and place a renewed focus on re-training those already out of work.

Of the two candidates, only one joined the side of teachers, nurses, policemen and firefighters in the fight against SB5. President Obama.

Finally, our county has an aging population, and the cuts proposed in Medicare by the Republican nominee are aimed toward senior citizens in our community. While both candidates have proposed cuts to Medicare, there is a distinct difference in where the cuts are made.

President Obama has cut $700 billion from Medicare, but those cuts came from insurance companies and hospitals, not in benefits to seniors.

The Republican candidate wants to take that same $700 billion and give tax cuts to the upper 5 percent in the United States, not to mention his plan to turn Medicare into a voucher system for those of us under 55 years of age.

Because of his stances on federal aid, education and Medicare, it is, in my opinion, in your best interest to cast your vote for President Barack Obama on Nov. 6.

Tanner Heaberlin

Kitts Hill

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  • indieVoter

    Obama just took Minnesota…Michele Bachmann’s home state. Bad news for her tonight???

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  • indieVoter

    I don’t plan on it, but you know that there would be absolutely no “kids gloves” if it were the other way around. He’d be on here addressing me with as a female, as a socialist, as a bed-wetter and the many other demagoguery ways that noesis referred to me over the past months.

    Also note, I’m not on here calling Romney names (as I haven’t all along) and I’m not referring to his side as the “fascist” side, which would’ve been appropriate with all the socialist remarks that have been made.

    No, it’s enough for me to have been on the right side all along and have it proven out tonight. I’m happy most of all for America, and not for any partisan consideration.

    Tonight, America has spoken and tonight is a win FOR America.

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    • indieVoter

      ‘derogatory”, not demagoguery…darn spell check

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  • mickakers

    indie; Your comment in regard to the MIA’s is on the money, but be careful, you don’t want to be in the same boat, only on different ends.

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  • indieVoter

    Mick, you talk about abortion a lot more than you do homelessness. Maybe you should think about volunteering with an organization to support at-risk mothers instead of your current work with the homeless, which I commend you for. Just as the decision as to whether or not a fertilized egg is a fully-blown human being with full human rights is a religious determination, the solution to the issue is one based in charity and morality…not legislation.

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  • mickakers

    Ted Kennedy? Was he really concerned about all the disadvantaged, or just a select few in order to advance his own self interests? The unborn? He disregarded and supported their killing, of course, they couldn’t vote.

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  • indieVoter

    Just heard the republicans picked up a couple of senate seats and may have evened out the senate race overall tonight.

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  • keta

    in reference to religious beliefs
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    When conservatives demonstrate the same “care and concern” for poor women and children that they claim for the unborn, I’ll take their position more seriously.

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  • indieVoter

    And what about the MIAs Mick? You know that noesis and Haney would be crowing if the situation were the other way around…plus noesis went out of his way in talking about the guy who’s candidate was on the losing side having the “cajones” to be here and take their medicine like a man.

    Just a little inconsistent, don’t you think?

    Personally, I find it lacking. ;)

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  • indieVoter

    A big loss for the Tea Party faction of the republican party. Todd “legitimate rape” Akin lost what should have been a guaranteed win for the republicans in the Missouri senate race. Big win for the democrats holding on to their +2 in the senate tonight so far…

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  • mickakers

    indie; “principled compromise”? There is nothing principled when it comes to supporting the killing of the unborn, same sex marriage and the disregard of freedom of conscience in reference to religious beliefs. I’m sorry indie, I find your discernment of the situation lacking.

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    • indieVoter

      Mitt Romney disagrees with you. He said, in the clip I suggested below, that it’s 100% OK in the Mormon faith to be strongly against abortion personally, but recognize others’ freedom of choice given freedom of religion here in America.

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  • indieVoter

    Sherrod Brown held his Senate seat here on Ohio with a win just announced.

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  • indieVoter

    Again, I understand how you feel. I hope you have an objective mind and give Obama a fair chance over the next 4 years. I’m not giving him a rubber stamp of approval. I expect him to make the right decisions and, now that the nonsense of partisan positioning is over for him, I’ll be even more candid if there’s a point I think he falls short on.

    Speaking of the partisan nonsense, what do you think of the fact that our very partisan friends pulling a MIA on us here tonight???

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  • keta

    Thrilled about Sherrod, and Elizabeth Warren; Ted Kennedy would be glad to know she won his old seat. She’s as much a populist as he was, brilliant and progressive.

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    • indieVoter

      Agree 100%. She’s a big champion of consumers and she’s brilliant. She’ll hold that seat as long as Kennedy did if she wants.

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  • mickakers

    indie; The ignorance and lack of perception of the American people continue to amaze me. I feel our educational system is failing us, or, are we failing ourselves due to apathy and laziness when it comes to education and the search of knowledge and wisdom?

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    • indieVoter

      And remember, Mick, when you were a kid there were the same kind of worries over Elvis Presley shaking his hips on TV. Sounds silly now but you know what they saw that as a foreboding of.

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  • indieVoter

    Obama just got New Hampshire, another key swing state. The window is closing on Romney.

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  • indieVoter

    The way it stands right now, I think it’s very possible that Ohio will be the state to put Obama over the top for the win tonight.

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  • indieVoter

    Make it +2 for the democrats tonight. Donnelly just won his senate race in Indiana.

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  • indieVoter

    Elizabeth Warren just won her senate race, giving the democrats their first gain. It’s +1 in the senate for the dems as of right now.

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  • indieVoter

    Mick, I won’t make fun of you for feeling that way. I’m just going to reassure you that he will diminish those concerns. It’s time for Americans to work together in what Reagan understood to be principled compromise and advance the important causes facing this nation. It’s time to get to work.

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  • mickakers

    indie; If President Obama is reelected, I feel this is a sad commentary on the state of affairs in the United States. If this happens, it is demonstrative of the decline of moral integrity in our nation. The first sign of disintegration of a society.

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  • indieVoter

    Obama just won Wisconsin. That closes most of the Romney scenarios for winning without Ohio.

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  • indieVoter

    Before we have any swing state results in, I’m going to predict 300 electoral votes for Obama. That’s where I’ve been on it for while.

    If, on the other hand, if you see North Carolina break for Obama then you’re going to see him get over 350 electoral votes and win in a major landslide. Technically, 300 electoral votes is a landslide but 350+ puts him in the category with Reagan ’84 and Nixon ’72. Either way, I think Obama will call it a mandate and push forward with his agenda for America and, when it’s all said and done, he will succeed and America will win in a big way.

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  • mickakers

    This is an exciting night. It is nice to have someone to enjoy and share it with.

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  • mickakers

    indie; An excellent post and synopsis of the Political situation. My compliments, and thanks for your insight.

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  • mickakers

    keta; I know, their should have been there. God Love Ya, you keep me on my toes, which by the way, is not an easy task.

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  • mickakers

    keta; As a PS: The Church and State are not corrupt in themselves. Their are individuals within the Church and State that are corrupt, causing chaos and dissension.

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  • mickakers

    keta; Your comment “The word “God” isn’t in the constitution,” is correct, but the inference is. The closing statement at the end of Article VII reads “Done in convention by the unanimous consent of the states present the seventeenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven”, etc. The closing statement in the Declaration of Independence also presents of reference to belief in God “And for the support of this Declaration with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence”, etc. Church and State do not corrupt each other, they complement each other.

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  • indieVoter

    Before we have any early results, here are a few thoughts on where we’re at politically after this election cycle as expressed by key constituencies.

    The Democrats: Obama is probably going to get 95% of the African-American vote and 75% of the Latino vote tonight. The first part of this equation isn’t a revelation, but it is a setback for the republicans who’ve been trying to be more friendly to black voters in recent years. The news here is the Latino vote. Since a high percentage of Latino are religious people and ambitions/hard working, it should have been easy for Republicans to court them. Immigration has been a disastrous issue for the republicans when it comes to the Latino voting block. Combined with the fact that Obama is also a minority, this year has established a trend that will give democrats a big numerical edge at the polls in future years. This year has been a mixed bag when it comes to women. Single women have been locked in even more for the democrats while the republicans have held their ground with married women. Another big development for the democrats this year was with organized labor. After straying in recent election cycles, organized labor has returned to the democratic party in a very big way.

    The Republicans: Romney’s right turn this year has locked in both the senior and the fundamentalist voting blocks for the republicans. This was a big year for the Tea Party faction in the republican party in terms of the platform of the party and the tone/tenor of their candidates across the country. This may or may not last depending on the results of both the presidential and several key congressional races tonight. If we see Obama win and people like Todd Akin lose what should’ve been a lock for the republicans, they will be faced with a decision between ideological purity and pragmatic reality when it comes to winning.

    Wildcards: We may see a significant 3rd candidate in the 2016 election cycle. While I don’t support him personally and find his appeal to Howard Stern concerning, Jesse Ventura could be a factor in 2016 surprising America like he did in Minnesota when he came from nowhere to win the Governorship. Notably, Ventura would appeal to younger, less religious whites. He would appeal to some of the Tea Party demographic who want smaller and less intrusive federal government and less US military spending and involvement in regions around the world. If Ventura ditches Stern as a joke and gets a big money/big name ally to help get him on the ballot in all 50 states and into the debates, Ventura will be a bigger factor in 2016 than Ross Perot was in 1992. This may sound crazy but, then again, I remember when it would’ve sounded crazy to say a guy like Barack Obama would ever be elected president.

    One thing is certain. The next four years will be a key, transitional time for politics in America.

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  • indieVoter

    Results start coming in at 7:30 tonight. Virginia and New Hampshire are going to be key states to watch early. I’m looking forward to finally watching election night unfold and, when the evening is done, I hope there’s no delay in getting a conclusive result…whichever way it goes.

    You all take care.

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  • keta

    Park GOD at home
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    The word “God” isn’t in the constitution, mostly because our brilliant founders knew from bitter experience that church and state corrupt each other, and that mingling them generally lead to hatred and bloodshed. Some of the original colonies required that anyone seeking office must believe in the Trinity, which would have disqualified Mormon Mitt Romney. Although some of the founders were devoutly religious, they made sure that people of different faiths, believers and non-believers, would be free to think and live as they choose. The notion that only Christians are real Americans is disturbing and dumb and overwhelmingly rural, where everybody is pretty much like everybody else.

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  • keta

    the sanctity of marriage
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    Sigh. Sanctity, (or what is sacred), including or removing God from a party’s platform….I speak here as a believer and faithful churchgoer: those things don’t belong in our political life, period. Jewish Americans, Muslim Americans, Americans who are agnostics or atheists, all those millions of citizens, are as deserving of representation as Baptists and Methodists and Episcopalians. Imposing your beliefs and your will on them is wrong, not to mention unconstitutional. The idea that a same-sex marriage somehow threatens the “sanctity” of your marriage is silly. If a rape victim would rather not co-parent with her attacker, that’s her call, regardless of your religious beliefs, and regardless of which president appointed which Supreme Court justices. The issue is equality under the law, and it’s a knotty problem, despite the black-and-white ideology of evangelicals.

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    • mikehaney

      So when a person goes to vote; park GOD at home. He’s not allowed in the voting booth with you.

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  • mickakers

    The parties platform express the candidates beliefs. The Democratic platform takes back seat when it comes to moral integrity taking into consideration the hierarchy of values, right to life, the sanctity of marriage between a man and woman and respect for freedom of conscience when it comes to religious beliefs. The Democratic Party, the ex party of the people has fallen on hard times and succumbed to the influence of relativism.

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    • Noesis

      that and democrats wanted to remove God from the platform.

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  • mickakers

    Noesis; The Smokies? Beautiful!!! I love it. I recommend Estes Park, Colorado and the Rockies, hiking and wildlife at it’s best. Wake up in the morning with an Elk or two sleeping on your front porch. The last time I was there, was chased by an Elk, he thought I was trying to steel his harem. The last time I was in the Smokies was about eight years ago staying (cabin) in the boondocks (Pigeon Forge area), kinda scary in the wilderness by yourself with no one close by, but beautiful. A visit across the mountain to Cherokee, N.C. is worth the drive. Enjoy your visit. Without you and indie, this site is going to be rather tame. Will miss you both. God’s Speed Gentlemen.

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    • Noesis

      Yeah I got enough of the mountains when I was trained on a submarine in Idaho.

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  • indieVoter

    Romney talks about the concept of being profoundly against abortion as a person of faith but still being pro-choice. He does not think that’s inconsistent.

    I’m not making an argument for or against anything now. That time’s come and gone. This is Romney’s definitive statement on abortion and he made it this week. If you want it, here it is. Or don’t watch it. That’s fine too.

    youtube.com/watch?v=TxMD02zU9SE&feature=player_embedded

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  • Noesis

    I won’t be on much after the election either Mick. Heading for the mountains of Tennessee for a week. I doubt the internet reception on my cell phone will be very good out in the woods at the cabin.

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  • mickakers

    indie; I would like to present this “set of non-negotiables. These are areas that are intrinsically evil and should not be supported by anyone who is a believer in God or the common good or the dignity of the human person. They are: 1. Abortion 2. Euthanasia 3. Embryonic Stem Cell Research 4. Human Cloning 5. Homosexual Marriage.” This is where the hierarchy of values steps up to the plate.

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  • mickakers

    indie; Your comment “If Obama wins I’m planning on taking a leave from the forum here.” Please reconsider this decision. Your insight and thoughts are beneficial to this forum and to any open minded individual. My compliments to you on your care, concern and interest.

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  • indieVoter

    We’ll disagree then, Mick. Time for debating is over…finally. If Obama wins I’m planning on taking a leave from the forum here.

    There’s a new Romney video going viral. I haven’t seen it on the news channels so I’m sharing it. I think you’ll find some satisfaction in his words on your primary issue.

    “Mitt Romney speaking about Mormon faith”
    YouTube: youtube.com/watch?v=TxMD02zU9SE&feature=player_embedded

    Mick, I wish you the best.

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  • mickakers

    indie; I find your perception lacking. My comment “Politics runs in his blood.” was meant as a refute to mikehaney’s comment in regards to Romney not being a politician. I find your comment pertaining to “pigmentation in the skin” rather offensive and childish. Is this an attempt to distract from the important issues?

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    • Noesis

      Actually Mick, I believe the last election had a lot to do with skin pigmentation. Look at the record turnout of African-Americans in the 2008 election. His policies were the same as Kerry and Gore and yet they didn’t get that type of turnout. Additionally how many white voters voted for him solely so that they could prove to themselves and others that they weren’t racist because they voted for a black man.

      I mean seriously “Hope and Change” isn’t much of a platform.

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  • indieVoter

    I don’t believe the notion of politics “running in your blood” is a consideration. By that measure, George W. Bush should have been a grand-slam home run.

    The pigmentation in the skin of the candidates has a lot more to do with this election than the politics in their blood…sometimes consciously, sometimes not.

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    • mikehaney

      When you know your wrong, one resorts to the race card.
      Typical liberal tactic that has been around for years.

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  • mickakers

    Mike; Don’t fool yourself, Mitt Romney is a very experienced politician. Please do a search on him and his father George W. Romney. Politics runs in his blood. You also might want to do a search on his mother, Lenore, she was also a politician in her own right.

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    • mikehaney

      Wrog Mick.
      Romney was a successful business man on his own. Not saying he wasn’t influenced by his parents. Who isn’t.
      And since you brouht it up, look at the influence Obama’s parents had on him. He believes in socialism.
      Romney believes in free enterprise.

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  • mikehaney

    The workers tried to contact other areas to see if they needed assistance — but eventually decided to return to Alabama.

    “Based on the uncertainty of union requirements that we could not agree to and the uncertainty of whether a resolution could be reached, we ultimately made the decision to return them to Decatur after being stalled in the Virginia area most of the day on Thursday,” the statement read.

    Earlier reports indicated two other Alabama utilities — Huntsville Utilities and Joe Wheeler Cooperative — were also turned away from New Jersey due to union discrimination. However, those utilities have since denied those reports.
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    Are we still in America? Vote Romney/Ryan to help find America again.

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  • indieVoter

    Like all good propaganda, that was very timely. You notice how I let these guys post all over the place here and other stories here (like this: irontontribune.com/2012/10/31/romney-running-against-self/#comments ) without rebuttal. I figure the average person can see through the nonsense. It’s just propaganda from the right and it’s never fair or balanced.

    It wasn’t clear whether that last guy was against everyone having coverage or was against cutting waste and reducing spending, but it doesn’t matter. This is all just part of the thinly-veiled and ongoing hatefest they’re wallowing in.

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  • mikehaney

    Shame how a non-politician(Romney) messes up and speaks the TRUTH.

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  • indieVoter

    I think about it and here’s how I see it. There are two ways you need to look at health care. One is whether everyone should have at least some base level of health care available. This is the angle from which you might ask whether or not basic medical care is a right. The other way of looking at this issue is rarely talked about here. It’s about eliminating waste and lowering the cost of health care. With Medicaid and Medicare already being huge budget items, what powers does the president have to improve this situation?

    I believe it was Mick who said before here that a single-payer program would be best. I’m not sure if I’m on board for that but I bring it up because one benefit of a single-payer plan is the leverage it would give our elected officials in negotiating down the cost of health care. Obama’s program is a less progressive/liberal approach than is a single-payer plan but he’s definitely looking to reduce costs and, if anything, improving the quality of health care.

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    • mikehaney

      indie- Obama’s program is a less progressive/liberal approach than is a single-payer plan but he’s definitely looking to reduce costs and, if anything, improving the quality of health care.
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      Problem with health care run by washington is that the “dedicated people friendly americans” are taken completely out of the picture. We’ll all end up dealing with people who work for the goverment and anyone ever having to renew your drivers license or plates can understand what I am saying.

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  • teacher

    Tanner,

    If a reader just skims what you said I guess it sounds OK., like a political ad. But if you actually read it and think about it, it makes no sense. For example, how, exactly, is Obama going to take $700 billion from Medicare but somehow take it from Insurance companies and hospitals? Even if he could, would we WANT him to take it from our hospitals, who are running on empty as it is.
    And how, exactly, could Romney take $700 billion from Medicare and somehow give it as tax cuts to rich people? Tanner, honey, that makes no sense at all, just political buzz that means nothing.

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  • Noesis

    Hey Keta, are those 47%ers bitterly clinging to their guns and bibles?

    It looks like Tanner is another one of those uneducated voters the previous article was talking about.

    Yeah, Obambi is going to take $700 billion from Medicare and it’s not going to affect you in any wat shape or form!

    We are going to put an extra 20 million people in our health care system for free and health care costs will go down!

    I have some swamp land…. errr I mean prime real estate that I’d be willing to sell you Tanner!

    Keep on drinking that Kool-Aid – Stay thirsty my friend!

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  • keta

    47 percenter I assume?
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    Shhh. Why remind people of what Mitt said about the 47 percent? Might as well remind them that he thinks even disaster relief should be privatized, etc. That’s just awkward. I think the deal this weekend is collecting cans of food, or, as Mitt says, “canned goods”.

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    • Noesis

      Actually, I think it’s for bottled water since FEMA ran out… maybe food too since people are dumpster diving to find food to survive.

      Heck of a job Barry!

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  • bigkahuna

    Same old tripe.

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  • mikehaney

    47 percenter I assume?

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