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Must move on after election

Published 10:12am Tuesday, November 6, 2012

By the end of night, we should know who will lead our community, our state and our nation for the next couple of years at least.

Regardless of the outcome of today’s general election, the coming days need to be a time of healing and mending of the proverbial fences as we all shift our focus to the future.

This is never more important anywhere than it is in Washington, D.C., where bitter partisanship and political games have divided the nation and stifled growth for several years.

Things are not nearly as divided at the state and local levels, but the need for progress and compromise are just as important.

Government — regardless of how large or small it is — functions best when all sides come together to create a unified vision that provides a blueprint toward a shared goal.

That doesn’t mean everyone will agree all the time and there will always be ideological differences. The key is finding a way to seek some middle ground.

Sometimes, in today’s world of high stakes politics where far too many people view it as a career rather than public service, that seems to be lost.

But it isn’t too late to recapture this spirit that has helped make our melting pot the greatest nation in the world.

It’s never too late. But the time must start today.

  • mickakers

    indie; As an afterthought. Minorities are no different than the rest of society when it comes to bigotry or self-centeredness. They are also subject to prejudice, as exemplified in the intent of your remarks concerning senior citizens. I feel you have a bit of maturing to do my friend. I wonder, will the next generation of senior citizens be as wise as the present? The present, future senior citizens are lacking in understanding, which is exemplified by their beliefs and lifestyle. The Democratic Party as presented by their platform, The Clinton’s, Barack Obama, is this the highlight of our society? If so, we are lacking. We are a weak, immoral, selfish race of people.

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  • mikehaney

    Only in America can a president who inherits a deep recession and whose policies have actually made the effects of that recession worse get re-elected. Only in America can a president who wants the bureaucrats who can’t run the Post Office to micromanage the administration of every American’s health care get re-elected. Only in America can a president who kills Americans overseas who have never been charged or convicted of a crime get re-elected. And only in America can a president who borrowed and spent more than $5 trillion in fewer than four years, plans to repay none of it and promises to borrow another $5 trillion in his second term get re-elected.
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    Obama has 50% of the american people eating out of his hand, literally. Reminds me of a giveaway at Walmart. Please no shoving,plenty of freebies for everyone.

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  • mickakers

    indie; Your naivete is showing when it comes to Latino’s. I have in-laws (several) who are Hispanic. I know, God love them.

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  • mickakers

    indi; Mike Haney is correct in his observation, a divided America. The United States has been divided since it’s founding. Remember, we fought a bloody civil war, and we are still fighting. Our ineptitude and lack of comprehension is astounding.

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  • indieVoter

    Mick – “Latino’s primary concern is their own self advancement without due concern for the remainder of society.”

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    Wow, Mick, you just don’t get it my friend!

    Your characterization as Latinos as people “without due concern for the remainder of society” is EXEMPLARY of the kind of inaccurate, insulting and borderline racist (in my opinion) comments that are making your party famous to Latinos and minorities in general.

    The next generation of senior citizens will be:

    1) Smaller. The one we have now is the remnamts of the “baby boomer” generation

    2) More progressive. Having lived an adulthood through successful presidencies from Clinton and Obama, they will continue their affiliation with the democratic party long after they retire.

    On the other hand, minority population will continue to increase here in America. If republicans ever try to wise up and take a more insane position on immigration, it may make some inroads with Latinos but it will increase the number of them in America. These people will vote. Democrat.

    So you have increasing minority population and a shrinking senior population that will be less conservative. The republican party is going to be out of favor for a long time. I’d say smart money is on 12 years of democrats in the White House with the Clintons moving in seamlessly in 2016.

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  • mickakers

    indie; I never thought I would have to concede this, but the Republican Party is a notch above the Democratic Party when it comes to moral stability. The Latino’s primary concern is their own self advancement without due concern for the remainder of society. Caution is in order. Clinton/Obama cannot not even hold a candle to the Bush Family. Hillary may be on her way out. This country is and has been lacking in moral leadership. A prime example of immaturity and lack of wisdom, demonstrative of the American people.

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    • indieVoter

      If you really feel like that, nominate Rand Paul for president next time and see what happens.

      This election was a referendum on republicanism as we know it and you know how that turned out. Put a guy like him on your ticket next time and you’ll see how it floats with America in general. I’d say that his opponent would get 400 electoral votes.

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  • indieVoter

    Mike, as usual, you disappoint me. Your characterization of the republican performance as being “slightly smaller” is laughable. Once Florida stops dragging its feet counting Miami-Dade (a democratic precinct…and Obama is ahead in the state already) he will have 332 electoral votes. Working with the 2 progressive senators, the democrats have a working majority of 55. That isn’t a “divided America” as you call it. It’s a strong majority and it chose Obama.

    The only thing the republicans have left is the House and that’s just because there weren’t enough of them up for re-election this year.

    All Obama needs to do is to find about 40 moderate republicans who want to be re-elected in the House and he’ll be ready to roll. If the don’t work with him, they will lose next time and the democrats will take the House too.

    You only need look at key constituencies to understand what’s going on in America. Minority population is going up.

    The republicans have made a key….KEY…miscalculation of the Latino vote in recent years. Their varied but usually ridiculous positions on immigration have alienated Latinos and made the Democratic party the Latinos party of choice.

    Given that, while it may border on stereotyping, a lot of Latinos are religious and hard working/industrious people…a natural fit for the republican party. BUT…the republicans blew it with their immigration party and the way they have treated the first minority president.

    They can read between the lines and see all I do, plus a lot more. This 8 years have been a disaster for the republican party at the national level. It may ultimately be replaced by some other party or parties what will rise to fill the void it leaves.

    I predicted that Obama would get 75% of the Latino vote…he got 71%. I predicted Obama would get 95% of the black vote…he got 91%. Obama also got 41% of the white vote and, given the last remnants of entrenched racism in America…overt or not…41% of the white vote isn’t that bad. Please note, I’m not saying you’re a racist if you didn’t vote for Obama. I’m saying that if you are a racist, you probably voted against Obama.

    One of the key constituencies of the republican party at the national level is senior citizens. First of all, that constituency has an expiration date. The people who’ve lived through the Clinton and Obama years….all of which will be framed as a huge success…are all of a sudden going to convert to becoming republicans.

    Reagan made it fashionable to be a republican. The Bush family ruined that and Clinton/Obama have seized the day and restored America to what it might have become if JFK had been given the opportunity to do all he wanted over a full 8 year term.

    That was taken from us and we went through some unduly hard years as a result. We, the people, have spoken and we’ve taken back the course of destiny.

    I hope Hillary runs with Bill as her not-so-silent partner in 2016 and secures what we’ve started. Every democrat that runs in the future will have a deep bench of successful ex-presidents to hit the campaign trail for them.

    I hope, as an initial measure, Obama proposes a bill that does two things. The first thing would be to raise the income tax for those making over $250,000 to 39.6%. That’s what it was in the Clinton era when the rich made a fortune and it’s currently only 36%.

    The second part of this bill would be an initial federal grant of $250,000 million to charitable and/or faith-based organizations that work with at-risk young mothers to help reduce the number of abortions in America…one at a time. I hope the president joins me and challenges every person who speaks and feels strongly about abortion to donate 10 hours of their time, per month, to such an organization…even if that has to cut back on the time they have to comment on their local home-town newspaper forums.

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  • mikehaney

    The election did show “there is no longer one America — maybe there never was — but at least two,” he said: a dominant, “progressive” one “that supports government spending, higher taxes, green politics and social liberalism” and a “slightly smaller one” favoring “lower taxes, less regulation, resource development and a somewhat more traditional view of ‘family.’ “

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  • deist

    The Democratic Party has learned that times change. This is ancharacteristic of Democrats, change. The Republicans have not changed and this is also a characteristic of Republicans, no change. But this is a flaw of the Republican Party.This election proved it. It is a simple issue of math. Democrats want to add and Republicans want to subtract. Obama hit the streets looking for the specific demoographics of an area. Republicans go in and say the same message to all in a state or area. The Dems. are trying to add to their party, and the rep. are trying to stay pure, and chase people away. If the Republican Party keeps using subtraction, the party will soon do as a subtarction problem will. It will reach zero.

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  • indieVoter

    Mick, I respect your right to hold that position about the democratic party. Given the overwhelming victory they got yesterday it’s fair to say you’re in the minority, but that’s OK. That’s what America’s all about. You may be in the minority in America with your views on Obama and his party, but it’s not the end of the world and you still have a voice.

    As a side note, time will prove out that Obamacare is a good program…that the economy is indeed in the midst of full recovery….this isn’t the beginning of a socialist takeover…and a lot more debunking of the neocon myths that have been floating around in recent months.

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  • mickakers

    mikehaney; My compliments on your historical perspective, in recalling Lincoln’s Gettysburg address. Abraham Lincoln was one of the greatest presidents this country has ever had. He was also a man of his times, which had it’s weaknesses and fallibility. We have advanced in our understanding of moral responsibility since his times and are even more accountable for our actions.

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  • mickakers

    indie; My comment applies more to the Democratic Party (lacking in wise and charismatic leadership), seeing as they are the leaders and therefore more responsible. Along with leadership comes moral responsibility. Popular vote and the electoral college are not reflective of moral responsibility. Moral Responsibility comes from a higher authority, which relativism chooses to ignore.

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  • mikehaney

    May God be with us and—I pray—eventually lead us out of our now-inevitable bondage. But, it appears now that it will not be soon.

    *From President Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address

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  • indieVoter

    “We are lacking in wise and charismatic leadership on all fronts. ”

    Mick, I agree with this as an assessment of the republican party at the national level. Both in the popular vote and in the electoral college, America has endorsed President Obama and the democratic party in a night that can only be described as a disaster for the republican party.

    Other than a razor thin win by Michelle Bachmann and sheriff Joe Arapio in Arizona, it was mostly bad news for the republicans last night.

    Obama’s going to have 330 electoral votes once they’re done counting in Florida. The democrats picked up two seats in the senate, bringing them up to 53 with 2 friendly independents. That gives them 55 votes.

    If there’s no bipartisanship from the republicans in senate, in the next election it will be all about taking 5 seats away from the republicans in the senate…starting with Mitch McConnell.

    In the House, there is more work to do. It might take 2014 and 2016, but I believe that at this point 4 years from now the democrats will have both houses of Congress and the White House, almost definitely the Clintons.

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  • mickakers

    Tribune; An excellent article. My compliments. I do feel the “bitter partisanship and political games” will continue in Washington. The environment has not changed. We are lacking in wise and charismatic leadership on all fronts.

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  • bigkahuna

    It did not take long for the stock market to go into the toilet.

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  • indieVoter

    If it’s time to move on, it’s probably time for the tribune to move on from the editorial cartoon where Mitt is the dragon-slayer, sitting atop a slain Obama with a dagger through the back of his neck. You guys never cease to amaze me.

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  • indieVoter

    I tuned in to FoxNews at the end of Obama’s speech and they were already in commercial. Over on NBC, they were still live with Obama on stage with his family and Joe Biden’s celebrating with confetti falling and Bruce Springsteen playing.

    Fox came back from commercial with a clip of Obama’s speech, where he spoke well of Romney, and nothing else. Then they cut to a replay of Romney’s speech. Keep in mind, NBC was still live with Obama. Not MSNBC….NBC.

    Classy FoxNews…classy.

    As Richard Nixon once said, “if the present trend continues” Obama will win with over 330 elector votes. That’s a major landslide. That means he has a mandate this time. Obama is the first democrat since FDR to win two elections with 50% percent majorities in the popular vote.

    Democrats also picked up seats in the senate. They don’t have a 60 vote, filibuster proof, majority but I think they’ll use cloture this time around since Obama has the mandate.

    In the house, the republicans are still going to have a majority. I think Obama is going to have to find about 40 moderate republicans to get things done, and that also means John Boehner has to play ball…or he’ll get beaten next time too and the democrats will take the house back too in 2014 and 2016.

    I predict that shortly after the inauguration, Hillary Clinton will resign as Secretary of State and (while she won’t admit it at that time) she’ll be preparing for her own run in 2016. If she does, you’ll hear the following statement from Bill Clinton at the 2016 Democratic National Convention.

    “When I first ran for president in 1992, I told you about the great partner I have in Hillary and that if you vote for me, you’ll get her for free too. Well, that goes both ways. If you vote for Hillary, you’ll get me too. Hillary’s gonna put me in charge of the economy and do what we did in thte 90′s…creating jobs and budget surpluses. We’ll move on to do the things we couldn’t over the past 8 years, due to the partisanship in Congress but how we have majorities in both houses. America will be stronger in 8 years than it ever has in its history…”

    The republicans have only one hope to stop that. They need to move to the center, drop the tea party and nominate a moderate who has some gravitas, some wisdom and the experience to be their next great president…someone like Colin Powell, if he’s not Obama’s next Secretary of State that is. I would have mentioned Bloomberg or maybe Chrlie Crist but they both defected from the republican party to become independents.

    History will prove out that this is not the dawn of socialism in America. Free enterprise will prosper as will freedom itself here in America. Like it or not, America has spoken and it believes we’re on the right path.

    Well, as much as I enjoy this, it’s time to get back to that FoxNews and see what they’ve got to say about tonight. I can’t believe they don’t have Bill O’Reilley and Brit Hume on here explaining what happened tonight…talk about an O’bummer!

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